HAMPTON STALL It's interesting because Ohio Regulars is an identified militia group. MICAH LOEWINGER Hampton Stall, founder of Militia Watch and I have been in the Zello trenches together for months now, he says this woman's username, I'll say it again, "Ohio Regulars, Actual Oath Keeper", offers some important clues. We're sticking together and sticking to the plan. That woman narrating her march towards the capital is a user calling herself "Ohio Regulars, Actual Oath keeper." I've spent the last week trying to figure out who she was and who she was with. MICAH LOEWINGER That channel was called Stop the Steal, J6. WATKINS Trump's been trying to drain the swamp with a straw. But it wasn't until days later that I realized I had captured something quite interesting. MICAH LOEWINGER This is a Zello channel that I had running in the background while I was watching the capital riot unfold on TV. They're not even trying to stop us at this point. We're about two blocks away from it now and police are doing nothing.
MILITIA What kind of numbers do we have going into the capital? Any estimates? What percentage of the crowd is going to the capital? Well, Micah was monitoring the app, and this is what he heard on January 6th. End quote.īROOKE GLADSTONE In a written statement in October, Moore told us that Zello had implemented several changes to make these militia channels harder, at least for outsiders to find but he said he wouldn't shut them down because he believed it's not the job of a private company to censor private speech, and also because Zello couldn't possibly monitor all the content on its platform anyway. Zello responded to us, saying that, quote, The employees characterization is inaccurate and misleading. Nor would Zello implement new moderation practices to deter this type of organizing in the future. The employee said that in a subsequent company wide meeting, Zello CEO Bill Moore said, essentially, that because the platform was not legally responsible for any harm caused by those far right groups, it would not kick them off the site. MICAH LOEWINGER The employee sent us a company wide email from June that detailed some of the militia and white nationalist activity on the app. īROOKE GLADSTONE This could have been avoided three months ago as our reporter producer Mica Loewinger was putting the story together, he heard from an employee at Zello who told him that the company already was well aware of what was taking place on its platform. MILITIA Once we go operational, this channel will just be for intel gathering and organizing on the back side. How about if all of us stand the f*ck up and take this sh*t back? I got a problem with Patreus not growing a f*ckin set of goddamn nuts. MILITIA That's what the f*ck I got a problem with. To thwart the very kind of rhetoric and organizing that would take place on Zello in the days leading up to the insurrection. The signals were loud and clear, and we hoped that bringing some of these dark conversations to light would induce Zello to do something to stem the flow. īROOKE GLADSTONE These recruitment interviews took place in just one of hundreds of far right channels on Zello, where people often discussed civil war and used coded allusions to toppling the government. RECRUIT I ain't got nothing holding me back. Don't give two sh*ts or a flying f*ck about anybody that's less than 100 percent all the f*ck in. RECRUIT 3-1 Bravo, military police.I know a lot about weapons, munitions and a fair amount of gear. MILITIA So what do you got? What kind of experience you got? Military, law enforcement, medical? Shortly after that story broke, we also issued a warning of sorts our piece about Zello, a walkie talkie app that's home to militia organizing and recruitment. Back then, it was seen as a warning of what was to come. Recalling the foiled plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer this fall.
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īROOKE GLADSTONE Zip ties or more accurately, flex cuffs, hinted at the intention to take hostages, as many in the media noted. NEWS REPORT The man in the press gallery with what appears to be zip tie handcuffs, leading to a reasonable conclusion that he was planning on taking hostages or making a citizen's arrests. His name is Eric Munchel, known mostly as "Zip Tie Guy,". As of this writing, we know the identities of roughly 100 of the insurrectionists, including a man whose presence has become emblematic of the intent beyond the siege.
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More than a week since the deadly siege on the capital, a series of revelations has shed more light on what happened. BOB GARFIELD From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media, I'm Bob Garfield.īROOKE GLADSTONE And I'm Brooke Gladstone.
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